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RGN Xmas Event

Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:42:41

RambOrc

This year's RavenGames Xmas will be the third and (provided I can finish up everything on time) the biggest. It'll start on December 12, 2003 which is incidentally the 5th "birthday" of the domain name ravengames.com. For this occasion up to 5 new RGN websites will go officially online (most probably less though). Thus, it'd be a real shame if the Xmas event itself would be smaller than in previous years. In the case of Hexen this means that something new should be out if possible. Possibilities: - Carnage Galore III (2nd hub is near completion) - Vavoom (new version should be out soon anyway) - KMOD 3 (uhm I guess we won't make it) - KMOD 2.7 (well this one is the absolute minimum and this should be OK I think) These options are not mutually exclusive, so if all 4 could be released on time that would be really great. As to Heretic, Ichor you made a modified version of the Dwarvenmines wad last year (it corrected some error with several ports if I remember right). Do you still have it? If yes, could you send it to me? I have got the file but not sure whether it's really the updated version. Other ideas what to release are also welcome (for other games too like Heretic II or Hexen II).
Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:56:22

Moose

KMod 2.7 can be done in a matter of hours. KMod 3.0 I will try my best to get done as I said I'll let you test it as it currently is. Although it's not compleatly done the attribute system is near enough to be tested.
Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:21:45

Ichor

I still have it. It's right here.
Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:05:33

dj_jl

A new version of Vavoom shouldn't be a problem.
Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:13:20

RambOrc

How does it look with the new Vavoom version? Will it be ready by Thursday? Moose, I prefer releasing a KMOD 2.7 for the event, the new attribute system in 3.0 hasn't been tested enough yet. The event lasts til January 11, so we could still release a better tested 3.0 before its end (though that would mean less publicity of course). That means you should upload a 2.7 ASAP so at least some testing can be done on it (please include a detailed changelog).
Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:05:54

Moose

I'll get KMod2.7 finished soon probabaly not tonight (I have french orals tomorrow morning and I really should revise).
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:30:35

Ichor

Hehey! We're back (sort of). What will this do to the planned event? And by the way, I hope those filthy punks get what they deserve. People like that are not worthy to even look at a computer.
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:40:47

RambOrc

Whoa you literally posted the minute the forums were back up again. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> Well I've got a lawyer friend in Brazil who wants to go after these guys who are probably Brazilians, but even he knows he doesn't have much of a chance. As for the Xmas event, there won't be any, as I'm giving up on RavenGames. It's not yet public info so don't talk about it outside of the devforum, it'll be officially communicated sometime next week. The good news is that I don't intend to drop Korax' Heritage, not now, not the next time the server will be hacked. This time around, I decided to drop all free hosted sites (RavenCommunity and other) and the whole RavenGames network and some more smaller sites, but keep the rest. If I get hacked again I'll most probably cancel the dedicated server, cancel all of the hosted sites I didn't this time (which is this time only the paying clients, Janis and Ichor), drop some more of my websites and then move the rest to shared hosting plans like average people do (let the provider worry about being hacked then). But even in such a case, I won't drop korax-heritage.com, no need for worry.
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:45:24

Ichor

What do you mean giving up on RavenGames? You mean it will never return?
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:49:31

RambOrc

It means I'll pass it on to someone else - I've contacted RavenSoft whether they want to take it over (I don't think they will, but I figured they or rather their fans deserve a chance), if they don't say "yes", I'll put it all up for sale. In the case someone buys it just to shut it down or use the domain name with a different content, I'll put up the Heretic and Hexen sections on korax-heritage.com - after all, that were pretty much the only games ever from RavenSoft I cared about (maybe ShadowCaster a bit). Oh yes, regarding koraxdev, it's not exactly highest priority and the auto-restore didn't work so I'll manually restore it sometime next week.
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:51:06

Ichor

What about ravencomunity.net, ravenclans.net, all the hosted sites? Oh, and would this have happened despite the hacks?
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:57:33

RambOrc

Well the RavenClans hosted sites are paying and so I can't just tell them to go to hell, their accounts have been already restored. As for the free hosted sites, I'll write up an announcement next week as soon as I get so far and publish it so everyone knows what's up. The thing is simply that I just don't have the time and energy any more to manage a webserver with 100+ hosting accounts, make sure its security is airtight all the time, manage a whole gaming network, and manage a bunch of websites as webmaster. The time I am able/willing to spend on internet stuff is limited, and it's still questionable whether I've got enough to even keep what I didn't discard this time - the worst case scenario is to not have my own server but subscribe to shared hostings for a couple of my domains (korax-heritage.com and some non-game-related sites I manage) and drop everything else. As for the hack, it was just a good occasion to sit down for a moment and reflect on things and realize it's time to give up things that are outside of my possibilites. With Col.J.P. leaving and me not being able to find a decent newsposter, it doesn't even makes sense to keep RavenGames.com as an info/news site and discard the free hosted part of the network and the auxiliary sites, because without news RavenGames is not what it was. I still didn't completely make up my mind on what to do, but one thing is sure, I'm not going to go back to the old way. I've got a backup from sometime in November for all hosted sites, I could restore all that with a couple of clicks and also all the RGN main sites, but I just don't want to go back. I was given the chance to realize it's time to give up what I am not able to do... To answer your question explicitly, no without the hack this wouldn't have happened, at least not now and not in the near future.
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:59:43

mago

Hey, I'm glad both the site and the forums are alive again... Damn, how twisted must be someone's mind to go around the net destroying other's people hard work, only to enjoy himself and raise self-esteem... I'm pretty sorry they are brazillians too (I saw the e-mail address that had the "***.com.br" or something like that. I've heard Brazil has one of largest numbers of computer hackers in the world. I can't get it, with so many things to do there, with all the sun, heat and pretty people. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> I didn't realize you had some much work online, RambOrc... Nor did I think you run all the Raven sites alone (I didn't even know it was possible for someone not in the company itself). I'm sad to hear the sites will close down, but I won't compain - you, of course, have all the rights to decide upon what's best for you and your life. In any case, thanks a lot for all the effort. You are the man...
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:27:44

Ichor

At least we still have this site. By the way, this may be a silly question, but is there any way that my site could be hosted on Korax-Heritage instead or ravencommunity.net? As for RavenGames, you could ask the guys at DoomWorld to take it over and make it a section of their site (I'd ask them to host my site in that case). Just don't give it to Phoebus, heheh.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:56:49

RambOrc

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://fury.ravencommunity.net">http://fury.ravencommunity.net</a><!-- m --> should be working OK ATM, even though the main domain doesn't respond, it's been restored from a November 24 backup so if you uploaded anything since then you'll need to upload it again. I prefer not to move it to korax-heritage.com until it becomes clear what else will come here and in what structure, I guess you wouldn't want neither to get here a URL just to get it changed a couple of weeks later. As soon as the future of RGN is clear, it'll also be clear how korax-heritage.com will look like. Doomworld is an idea I didn't think of, do you know anyone there personally? That would make it easier to get in touch. As for Dumpster, I don't know what I would do if he'd show up tomorrow and offer the big bucks for RavenGames (but I don't think it's much of a possibility anyway).
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:05:42

mago

As for RavenGames, you could ask the guys at DoomWorld to take it over and make it a section of their site (I'd ask them to host my site in that case). Just don't give it to Phoebus, heheh. As for Dumpster, I don't know what I would do if he'd show up tomorrow and offer the big bucks for RavenGames (but I don't think it's much of a possibility anyway).
Who is this guy Dumpster/Phoebus? I'm pretty sure I heard about him sometime...
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:47:57

Ichor

I am a super moderator on the forums (controls all forums, one step below forum administrators), so I know most of the administrators. They are: Julian - [email:3cnbx2ab]julian@doomworld.com[/email:3cnbx2ab] L?t - [email:3cnbx2ab]dudzik@doomworld.com[/email:3cnbx2ab] Arioch - [email:3cnbx2ab]arioch@doomworld.com[/email:3cnbx2ab] Cyb - (don't know his email) Mordeth - [email:3cnbx2ab]mordeth@doomworld.com[/email:3cnbx2ab] Linguica - [email:3cnbx2ab]ars@andrewstine.org[/email:3cnbx2ab] mewse - [email:3cnbx2ab]mewse@despayre.org[/email:3cnbx2ab] As for Phoebus, he's like the anti-Ramborc. He controls Raven-Games and NewDoom.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:47:21

dj_jl

Hi! Glad to be back. Our internet computer's hard drive crashed and only now it has been fixed. This is why I coldn't release a new version of Vavoom last week, but I hope I will manage to do this on this week. Sad to hear the news that server has been hacked while I was away. That really sucks.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:04:21

mago

Good to hear Vavoom is under way. I was last night over the site reading the forums, and this engine is really, really looking great (even though I didn't understand half of what was being said... Everybody that posts there are hard-core mappers/coders... I felt like garbage there <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> ). I have a request to make, but I probably will post it there, not here in Korax'. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:56:21

Moose

Welcome back us. It will be sad to see ravengames go but you have to do what you see as best for you. And not a word to phil, don't worry. As to KMod2.7 I was about to upload it when I found that the site had been hacked, but seem as there will be no XMas event I'll keep it to myself for a little longer and see if theres anything else that I can do to the selling code.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:24:53

RambOrc

There are people visiting this site even w/o RavenGames so I'd say releasing a KMOD 2.7 next week as Xmas present would still be a good idea. I will also keep the FileFront account we've got for RavenGames, there we've got more or less unlimited storage and bandwidth, meaning providing big downloads to the public is still no prob. As for RavenGames, I haven't yet 100% made up my mind, it all depends on several factors (and people). That's why I didn't post anything on the site itself.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:30:03

Moose

I'll still keep it to myself for a couple of days. See if anything changes. Currently the only changes are: -4 new DS (wendigo, wraith, affrit and stalker) -Message comes up when you sell an item.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:02:57

Ichor

I'm still working on the second hub, and it will be finished (hopefully by year's end) and released regardless of whether we have the Christmas event.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:48:32

RambOrc

Between Xmas and New Year I should even have time to play it now that I don't have much of a webmaster job left. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:23:41

Moose

You may even have more time to work on levels for SE. But OTOH I'm getting nearer and nearer to my GCSEs and will have to spend time revising on top of homework and other things so my work level may fall.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:26:16

Moose

Oh and you may wish to double check E-mail forwarders, yesterday I got an e-mail that was addressed to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:dj_jl@korax-heritage.com">dj_jl@korax-heritage.com</a><!-- e -->
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:02:05

RambOrc

Nah... just check the headers, you'll see whom the mail was really sent to.
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:05:42

Firebrand

It's sad to hear that all the work you made in the past has been fucked up, I'm sorry for this Ramborc, but find the good looks of it, there can be a chance to make some cool changes to korax-heritage.com and make more people visit it <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> , also, new things can be planned for the site, it's just a matter of time, we are all with you pal...
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:18:51

Moose

[quote="RambOrc":2cup2gu5]Nah... just check the headers, you'll see whom the mail was really sent to. Thats what I ment, the 'To:' field has Janis' KH E-mail addy.
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:57:14

RambOrc

And that's NOT what I meant. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> Check the mail headers (the whole deal - in Mozilla Mail or Netscape Messenger, must hit CTRL + U while viewing a message, in M$ crap it's quite complicated, I found it out a couple of times but forgot again every time). There are a couple of "Received:" ones toward the top, they are mostly 2-3 lines long and the last line of such an entry sometimes contains a "for" entry, giving you the real mail addy the mail was sent to.
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:02:22

Moose

Oh ok I get it now, so why was this e-mail To: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:dj_jl@korax-heritage.com">dj_jl@korax-heritage.com</a><!-- e --> but for <!-- e --><a href="mailto:chris.bloomfield@btinternet.com">chris.bloomfield@btinternet.com</a><!-- e --> ?
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:05:07

RambOrc

The "to" line can be faked, the "for" AFAIK can't (at least not by the sender).
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:07:19

Moose

Ok fair enough, why can't things just be simple.
Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:01:24

Ichor

I wanted to wait until the official announcement was made, but I told the guys at Doomworld about the idea of them taking over RavenGames and Ravencommunity. I guess it will be a few days before we know of their decision. It does look promising, though, since a few months ago the same sort of thing happened to Doomcenter and it was taken over by Doomworld.
Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:33:23

RambOrc

LOL things are going on different tracks it seems, in the meantime I've mostly worked out the details with Pro-Filer so that at least part of the RavenCommunity hosted sites will be hosted by the GamingFiles Network. There'll be an announcement on this tomorrow. But since it's exactly the Heretic/Hexen sites he doesn't see what he could do with them and they're pretty near to DOOM, so there might be a good solution for everyone in the end.

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