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Prob with kmod 2!

Mon, 24 Dec 2001 03:30:00

Zedek007

I was quite surprised how fast Korax Mod II was there, and it almost bashed me off my seat when I saw all the new features that are coming with this program. So far I've really enjoyed playing the mage on skill 4, but when I wanted to finish the seven portals the screen hanged and the program crashed. I'd really like to see the shop in which you can buy supply items, but if the damn thing crashes before... you get it I think. It could be that the shop.gwa's or wad's or whatever don't load correctly, but since I'm not familiar with fixing such things I'll let you guess what it might be. Btw, thanx to the ones who programmed this mod, it kicks ass!
Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:43:00

RambOrc

How does it crash, i.e. what error message do you get (if any)?
Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:30:00

Tzar Sectus

Are you running the mod with one of the .bat supplied with the mod? Are you using a Hexen 1.1 wad (doubt that's the cause of the problem, but you never know)? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
Btw, thanx to the ones who programmed this mod, it kicks ass!
Thanks [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] -Remi
Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:22:00

weird

Hey, maybe no help, but that happened to me all the time, until I finally realised (with help) I had put the version 1.0 wad in the directory, not 1.1. Goshdamnit! [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:56:00

RambOrc

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Btw, thanx to the ones who programmed this mod, it kicks ass! Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Why is it always only the programmers get credit for the team's work? If you think of Quake, you think of John Carmack only, though the game has been made by over a dozen ppl. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
...until I finally realised (with help) I had put the version 1.0 wad in the directory, not 1.1.
I wonder why on earth did I write a manual for the damn thing (and a long one at that), though it contains instructions a child could follow, if nobody bothers reading it, we have to answer Qs here all the time that are answered in there... ...hey just got an idea, for the TC we'll install a copyright protection like thingy (like in old games of the early 90s), at every startup it'll ask you a word from this and that page of the manual, from this and that line... this way ppl will have to open the manual all the time and maybe - maybe - they'll even read a paragraph or to... [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] BTW Zedek007 if your prob really originates from the 1.0 wad then once you patch it up you'll have to start a new game as Hexen 1.0 and 1.1 savegames aren't compatible (hey it's Raven's fault, it was this way already in the original Hexen! [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]).
Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:16:00

Tzar Sectus

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
Why is it always only the programmers get credit for the team's work? If you think of Quake, you think of John Carmack only, though the game has been made by over a dozen ppl.
Actually, your example is pretty good. The only good thing about Quake was the engine, everything else pretty much sucked. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] It's one of the most simple and boring games I've played... and to think that John Romero tried to make it even *more* simple than it turned out! Someone should shoot that guy... why did Romero get so much darn credit anyway? Some days ago when I was bored I dug up some old PC Format magazines and read a review of Doom... they stated that Romero wrote *all* the code of Doom! They must have been pretty much lazy when they wrote that review. Fortunately, Romero got what he deserved, that Daikatana shows that Romero got no talent whatsoever when it comes to games. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
...hey just got an idea, for the TC we'll install a copyright protection like thingy (like in old games of the early 90s), at every startup it'll ask you a word from this and that page of the manual, from this and that line... this way ppl will have to open the manual all the time and maybe - maybe - they'll even read a paragraph or to... [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Ahh, that brings back old memories. I always hated those copy protections. I always like to keep the game manuals and cd in it's original box to keep it in mint condition. I always crack the games I play so I don't need the cd, and back in those days cracks weren't normal... grrr... why can't people learn and stop making these stupid copy protections anyway. It's so silly to hear big companies proudly state they've made the super invincible copy protection no one can break... and the next day some 14 year old geek cracks it. -Remi
Tue, 25 Dec 2001 18:53:00

Zedek007

Well, actually I have the version 1.1 of the hexen.wad installed (Korax Mod 1 ran fine with it)so the problem has to lie somewhere else. I run Hexen via the KMD3D.bat . When the program starts it shows some lines saying "couldn't load shop1.gwa, shop2.gwa ...". As I wanted to finish the 7portals, everything went normal,the text screen at the end was also shown, but after the text screen, when the Shadow Wood is supposed to load, nothing happens. The screen hangs, the program crashes (without an error) and I have to reboot my system, because Kmod won't restart after that. I experienced 4, maybe 5 other occasions where the game also crashes this way, especially on the guardian of ice when entering certain places (this was also the case in kmod 1 so I'm getting used to it). Ah well, and of course I didn't only want to thank the person(s) that programmed kmod, but also all those that helped building it every which way. Oh, and Merry Christmas from Germany!
Tue, 25 Dec 2001 22:31:00

RambOrc

Did you install KMOD2 by any chance into a dir where there was anything else but a version 1.1 Hexen.wad?
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 02:27:00

Zedek007

What I actually did was installing kmod2 to a new directory and then copying the hexen.wad ver. 1.1 into it.
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 02:31:00

Tzar Sectus

Darn, this is odd. Anyway, can you try to activate the console and write "warp 42" and see if it crashes at that point as well? (RambOrc, 42 is the first shop map, right? I don't have access to the KMod2 files so I'm not sure) If it does crash when you try to warp to that map then it's certain it crashes because it can't load the shop map. -Remi
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 02:54:00

Zedek007

Ok, that didn't work. It crashed just like at the end of 7portals. Your suggestion seems to be right. But what can be done about it, because I'd really like to spend my silver for useful items instead of just warping to Shadow Wood.
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 03:20:00

RambOrc

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
I'd really like to spend my silver for useful items instead of just warping to Shadow Wood
LOL... just as a side note, the first shop I really made use of was the one after the Heresiarch's Seminary, I lost all my quartz flasks in there and was able to stock it up in the shop. And in the 4th shop (after the Gibbet) I spent over 400 silver on quartz flasks and Urns, i.e. I'd rather save the bucks and not spend it all on torches in the first shop [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] OK, back to troubleshooting *sigh*... try to warp to the levels 43-46 (yes Remi, shops are 42-46) and see whether they crash as well. If they do, you should check whether all of the following files have been loaded: - kmod2.wad (if you see the custom KMOD2 screen at startup instead of the Hexen artwork, then it's loaded) - shop1.wad-shop5.wad (once the game started up, just pull down the console and scroll up with the PgUp key and check the entries). If the .gwa files aren't loaded, it's OK, there aren't any as there is no need for them. I'm not sure but I think the other wadfiles shouldn't cause a prob with the loading of a shop. I really can't think of anything else than corrupted mapfiles (you can try to open any of the shop files in a Hexen editor like WadAuthor to confirm whether they work OK) or a prob with KMOD2.wad which contains the updated mapinfo.
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 04:13:00

Zedek007

The other shop maps also make the game crash as I've just figured out after rebooting 3 times 8-(. All files are correctly loaded at startup (screen is shown, entries in list). I tried to download Wadauthor, but every link I found seems to be either broken, or the server is busy *grr*. Could you send it to me via ICQ or tell me where it is able to download wadauthor?
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 04:17:00

Zedek007

I mean where it is possible to download wadauthor.
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 06:12:00

RambOrc

Well we have a working download, just check either the Heretic or Hexen section, the link should be up on the mapping page (if you don't find it, just drop me a note, I'll give you the exact URL).
Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:04:00

Tzar Sectus

I say you should just try to reinstall everything. Logically something has to be corrupted. Try to reinstall Hexen, repatch it, reinstall the KMod2 and run it with one of the supplied bat files. If not even that works I'll rip my own head off. -Remi
Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:21:00

RambOrc

Also, you might want to download the ZIP archive again, though Camper means it can't be corrupted if it can be opened, it's still a possibility IMO.
Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:38:00

RambOrc

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zedek007: <STRONG>I was quite surprised how fast Korax Mod II was there</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I just realized what he meant, I guess he refers to the time between the public announcement of KMOD2 and the release date (maybe a month or so). After all, nobody has to know that KMOD2 was in the works since July, pssst... [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:07:00

Tzar Sectus

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RambOrc: <STRONG>Also, you might want to download the ZIP archive again, though Camper means it can't be corrupted if it can be opened, it's still a possibility IMO.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> If the zip archive was corrupted a CRC error would occur. But still, something has to be corrupted, this problem is plain illogical to me. -Remi
Sat, 29 Dec 2001 07:25:00

Zedek007

I give up! I downloaded the zip again, reinstalled everything, repatched and ran the game with default settings and... guess ... the same shit. Ah well, I think I'm good enough to beat the game without the shop thingy. That makes it less enjoyable though. Btw, I really didn't know that kmod2 was being worked on since June. I just hopped in to this site and downloaded kmod and when I had beaten it two days later with the fighter, kmod2 was out... that was some big surprise! I'm looking forward to the next release (Korax Heritage I think) and may it be less buggy for me [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Sat, 29 Dec 2001 07:46:00

RambOrc

At least on skill 3 or lower, it should be possible to beat the game w/o the shops, but it's really strange and I don't like it that you have a reduced enjoyment. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] Anyway, in the upcoming TC all shops will be in the town map and tons of other things will be in there as well and you even start in that map so if you miss the shops that means the game doesn't work at all... [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
I just hopped in to this site and downloaded kmod and when I had beaten it two days later with the fighter, kmod2 was out... that was some big surprise!
Just a Q, how did you find KMOD, through which site(s)? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
I'm looking forward to the next release (Korax Heritage I think) and may it be less buggy for me
That one will use the same engine as KMOD/KMOD2, so I just hope you won't get the same probs. But after that we change to an engine we'll have more control over, so compatibility probs should lessen later on.
Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:45:00

Zedek007

I found kmod by browsing www.raven-games.com I think, so there wasn't that much information (if there was any) about the other projects and I thought kmod would be the "one" project and nothing else would be released. Then I downloaded the game here and started playing, and it put a smile on my face. I didn't expect a high quality mod like kmod at all. When I went back to this page two days later (Korax gave me a hard time and I just wanted to know if there's a certain strategy to defeat him with the fighter) and then I saw that kmod2 was online, and I thought [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] Now I keep browsing ravengames.com every day to always have the latest news at hand. I think this site covers the best information for Raven's computer games, so keep the quality of it! Btw, since you listen to Metal Music RambOrc, which bands do you like most? Just to let you know, I have been at this year's Wacken and it kicked ass (possibly because it was my first time there [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] ). Oh, just one other thing, I just read that all shop maps use ice textures and it made me think of something .... Well, since my computer crashed mostly on the Guardian of ice when facing certain areas this could also be the case with the shop maps. But do you know what I really think: My computer sucks every which way, and therefore it can't even handle the easiest things, so I just say "Fuck it!" and give the damn machine a good whack everytime it crashes. It may help...
Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:27:00

RambOrc

That'd surprise me as raven-games.com does never post any news regarding Korax' Heritage, on general principles. The last time ever there was anything about Korax' Heritage up on that site was mid-June 2001, so unless you stumbled upon their news archives, you had to hear about us on another site (DoomWorld, DoomCenter and Raven Software regularly post our news). <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
Now I keep browsing ravengames.com every day to always have the latest news at hand. I think this site covers the best information for Raven's computer games, so keep the quality of it!
Thanks, we're trying... [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
which bands do you like most?
Judas Priest, Destruction, Sodom, Manowar, WASP, Iron Maiden, Helloween, Megadeth, Mot?rhead; a couple of Hungarian bands you most probably never heard about. Wacken is one of the HM festivals in Germany I take? I'm most of the time visiting the Z7 Music Factory at Pratteln/Switzerland, cool bands come now and then like Halford, Judas Priest, Helloween etc. and in 2 weeks from now a joint venture of Destruction, Sodom and Kreator. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I really can't imagine what the prob with ice textures might be, they don't use any special 3D effects AFAIK. Anyway, after our next project (a TC around March) is out, we'll switch to a new 3D engine that works w/o a 3D accelerator (and also w/o Winblows at all), so compatibility problems should lessen. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 12:13:00

Zedek007

Ok, Ramborc you may be right. It may have been another site than raven-games.com , but I don't remember, I think I was drunk that special night. Ah yes, Wacken is Europe's biggest Heavy Metal Festival by the way, there were more than 35000 people AFAIK. And, did you ever hear a song of the band SAXON? ; personally I think they rule (and I know them for 4 months now [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] ). They've performed a superb show in Wacken, just to let you know! With the ice-texture problem I may be wrong, but I know that weird things seem to happen on my system and noone knows what to do about it, but I'll buy a new computer in the near future, so forget about the prob the topic was started with. Keep on rockin' brother!
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 17:21:00

RambOrc

I once was at a large rock festival some 10 years ago. No idea how many 1000 there were, but it was a LOT. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] Saxon? Do you have the "Dogs of War" CD? As for your computer, I guess it has an ALi or VIA chipset, huh? Get AMD or Intel next time. [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]
Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:52:00

Zedek007

I don't own Dogs of war, but UNLEASH THE BEAST, THE EAGLE HAS LANDED LIVE PART 2, KILLING GROUND and Strong Arm Metal (Best of von 1982). Actually, my computer has an Intel chipset, but it is a P1 166, maybe that is the problem.
Fri, 04 Jan 2002 01:59:00

RambOrc

If you want a "Saxon: Dogs of War" CD, just e-mail me your postal address. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] Pentium 166? It might have an Intel 430VX chipset, that's nearly as bad as VIA and ALi.. [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] BTW P1 would be P5 (Pentium and Pentium MMX are P5, Pentium Pro and Pentium II are P6).

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