We need this info for the development of Scattered Evil. The more people vote, the more clear we can see in this matter, thanks. You'll need to register to these forums to be able to vote (registration takes maybe half a minute).

I tend to use MD2s only for the Korax mods. I don't use them any other time, mainly for the reason in selection three. It's also one of the reasons why I didn't use them in mine (Z_Malloc errors being the other reason).

I don't use them but they don't bother me much. Why did you put this in the KMod bit shouldn't it be in the SE bit.

Well...I wonder how many (modders) are going to sign up just to answer this question.. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

Moose: I need the answer for SE, but the Q itself is about KMOD. Patricia dear: I wanted to set it so that anyone can vote, but the admin panel didn't accept it, most probably I'd have to enable guest posting and that I'm not sure whether it'd be a good idea

Best believe I use em! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> MD2s give a better sense of immersion when used tastefully(IMO). The only thing I do NOT like MD2s for are enemy and player sprites. Thats straying too far from the feel of Doom, Hexen, etc. that I love. However, models for things like Statues, candles, misc. background items, etc. are great. Oh, also enemy and player fire (bullets, fireballs and the like) are nice... Peace, Opiatesoul

Same goes for Slaughtaurs and maybe other monsters as well. Consider it as a hidden trick (along with the fact that you can beat up a fir tree for EXP as long as you want, provided you don't use a weapon that creates fire). <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

[quote="RambOrc":149k3ari](along with the fact that you can beat up a fir tree for EXP as long as you want, provided you don't use a weapon that creates fire). <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> Well, I knew about the tree but I always end up destroying it with any weapon within a few hits so it helps a little <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

[quote="Evil Mage":3ll2ssxo][quote="RambOrc":3ll2ssxo](along with the fact that you can beat up a fir tree for EXP as long as you want, provided you don't use a weapon that creates fire). <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> Well, I knew about the tree but I always end up destroying it with any weapon within a few hits so it helps a little <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> But how? you can't destroy fir trees AFAIK. Back on topic: I think 3D torchs, tables, chairs, pillers, ect.... look better than when they were sprites (no more spinning).

You'll need to be a mage to do this. The fastest way to get some experience is to go to those line of trees near the bell tower and with either the blue or gray wand, shoot along the line, making sure to hit every tree.

[quote="Ichor":18oda3cr]You'll need to be a mage to do this. The fastest way to get some experience is to go to those line of trees near the bell tower and with either the blue or gray wand, shoot along the line, making sure to hit every tree. I knew that. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> But in the beginning, I just used 2 flechettes to destroy all 8 or is it (10) trees? Anyways, I just planted 1 flechette in bewteen every 4 trees and boom, they all burn, then do the same for the last set of trees. Also, you can do this with the fighter aswell. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

If you'd rather pick the gauntlets with your fighter and beat up those fir trees, they'd live a lot longer and you'd get a lot of EXP over time. While it's no real fun in single player, it's certainly an edge in deathmatch (though an unfair one).

[quote="RambOrc":1923a45h]If you'd rather pick the gauntlets with your fighter and beat up those fir trees, they'd live a lot longer and you'd get a lot of EXP over time. While it's no real fun in single player, it's certainly an edge in deathmatch (though an unfair one). Well, it's not like those EXP from those trees boost your levels up alot..Besides, in MP, hardly anyone lives long enough to get high enough levels..*Mentioning my Mages pathetic 10 health* BAH!!!. Vavoom or JHexen MP for me instead. Alot more balanced.

I say use models, just not for player, monster and npc's. Keeps the feel of the doom engine alive. The rest, like trees and such look fine if they were models and such.

Actually, mages generally start with around 20 health.

I wish you use 3D Models much more than in KMod... Heretic is much better now that?s fully 3D... With Hi-Res Textures, of course... The only "but" is that you need a third generation graphic card... Geforce 3 or better..., lots of system RAM and a good CPU... But that?s not a problem in our days...

[quote="Ichor":1x5s98qx]Actually, mages generally start with around 20 health. Gaah, that's still pathetic. Anyways....Im in JHexen and vavoom if I want MP.

[quote="Ryan_Hart":3g7ffuvp]I say use models, just not for player, monster and npc's. Keeps the feel of the doom engine alive. The rest, like trees and such look fine if they were models and such. I don't agree on that point... we have the converted 3D trees from Hexen II and Heretic II and they look so ugly compared to the original 2D trees of Hexen that most probably they'll be kept for SE. Notice BTW that latest cutting-edge 3D games go back to the sprite foliage, the much-praised plant life of SoF2 and Jedi Knight II consists mainly of sprites that even rotate when you look at them from different angles. If they could do it in a commercial Q3 engine game then I guess we can do that in SE as well. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> The only thing 3D in today's game-trees is the tree trunk itself.

Out of personal preference, I tend to prefer 3d models for things like: items, pickups, mana, artifacts, weapons, (silver and gold bars) <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> Sprites look better for players, monsters, torches, and yes - trees. In hindsite, it a shame that glowing flats never made it into the Korax mod, but I understand the need to leave the project as it is and move on. <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->

Interesting... Almost all the 3D Models for jHexen are made by Raven/Korax... Did?nt knew that... Look: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.doomsdayhq.com/res_jhexen_models.php">http://www.doomsdayhq.com/res_jhexen_models.php</a><!-- m --> <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

Yep, those models everyone contributes to skyJake are in reality our work (not only for Hexen but also for Heretic, most released stationary objects came from the Korax team resources I made available to skyJake last year). Everyone talks about Doomsday when Heretic/Hexen 3D models come up but the truth is that Korax' Heritage had 3D model support in July/August 2000, more than a year before jHexen had it. But the point of Korax' Heritage isn't and wasn't to brag about flashy engine effects. Our project is about gameplay. We use 3D models to add necessary improvements to the game (no more "magic tables" ? la Wolfenstein-3D), but it's just one of the many aspects of the underlying engine that serves only to bring through the message of the game itself... it's not a big feature that has to be plastered all over the front page as the main reason to play our mod.

[quote="ogerber":3pc0nh57]In hindsite, it a shame that glowing flats never made it into the Korax mod, but I understand the need to leave the project as it is and move on. <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> What are glowing flats?

"magic tables" ? la Wolfenstein-3D? What do you mean?

Just bought a Gameboy Advance for my boy, but it?s me that?s been playing it ever since... With it I bought SuperMario for the kid and for me Doom, Duke Nukem and Wolfenstein 3D which I?m playing for the first time... Just like you like, boss, software rendering, all flat sprites and the original maps... I?m loving it... Now, what are those "magic tables"?

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/drewinartarview/">http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/drewinartarview/</a><!-- m --> toward the top of the 2nd page

AhAhAh... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> JEFF K.!!!!! - OH NO, NAZIS HAEV DINNAR PARTY AND PJ PAJAMAS BUSTS STUFF UP! WHAT A TERRIBAL GUEST! why do yuo need chairs?!? ARE there no weapons? Drew - Chairs are good for smashing nazis in the head and you can push them around and they make a fart-ike sound. JEFF K.!!!!! - hmmm, farting chairs and magic tables... SOUNDS LIEK A WINNAR FOR SURE! <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Far out... Amazing...is this really an interview or is it faked?

Sorry bout that <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> If you've ever run the newer releases of the doomsday engine, certain flats (these are floors or ceilings in doom) like nukage can cast a glow on the surrounding walls. It's a neat visual effect. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

That's what my little rant above was about... Korax' Heritage is not about the latest and flashiest effects of this or that source port, it's about gameplay. Why do you still play Heretic and Hexen when there are so many newer games with much better graphics than Doomsday or Vavoom will ever be able to deliver? Because those old games have a better gameplay than most of today's flashy games. If we'd concentrate on implementing the latest Doomsday development as they come out, there would be no other work done on Korax and we'd be just a Doomsday clone with no point to our existence. But hey, it's the other way around! Korax' Heritage (and Carnage Galore III) is exactly why those source ports have any reason to exist. As far as I care, the "wow effect" of the cool graphics wears off after a couple of hours of playing... I tried jDoom a couple of months ago with all those cool new effects, high resolution, best quality settings and everything 3D models... it was great fun at first, playing a game that's the same old one I liked so much and at the same time an exciting new one... the effect has worn off at around the 10th map or so. I never again started the whole shebang and I most probably never will. Next time I'll touch that folder will when I'll delete it to free up drive space. Whenever I play Heretic, I still fire up the original DOS version on my 133 MMX machine with a hardware setup optimized for mid-90s DOS games, and running a real DOS (6.2), not just a half-working simulation. I play most of my old DOS games on that machine up to this day, becuz they feel right there, and not so strange than on my new workstation (or even, gods forbid, on my new gaming machine with the GF3). I fooled around with different jHeretic and Vavoom Heretic versions over the years, but the longest time I ever used any of them was when I made the screenshots for my Hell's Surface site ( <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://hells-surface.ravencommunity.net">http://hells-surface.ravencommunity.net</a><!-- m --> ). With Hexen, it's a somewhat different story, exactly becuz of Korax' Heritage. I stopped playing DOS Hexen 2 years ago, when development of KH began in earnest. There were 2 main reasons for using Doomsday for KH back then, one was that it looked a lot better (though I'd have been content with a simple resolution increase back then, indeed in '99 or so Camper was experimenting with DXHexen first and only later with Kokak's GLHexen), but also becuz it was easier to mod than the original DOS version where you had only wad editing capabilities and ACS (the first version of the day/night changes was done back on the DOS version with scripts, it was very cool back then to stand outside the inn and see how it gets slowly darker around you and then when it was pitch dark outside the lights suddenly went on in the inn). Well I'm not really sure what I wanted to say, I think I mostly said it (gee, another rant), I hope at last I succeeded in making it clear why neither KMOD nor SE will ever be merged with contemporary jHexen source code.

I use JHexen, not so much because it looks better, but because most of the limitations are gone. No more visplane overflows or problems with too many things being around at once. However, the biggest reason why is because I can use Visual C++ to change everything. Before, the most I could do was use Hex (a Dehacked type program) to change a few things. Now, I can add brand new things, radically change the behavior of other things, and maybe even fix a bug or two while I'm at it. The only down side is that I can't use most of the special effects using JHexen, like invisible stairs and floors, and Mario type moving platforms, but that's just a small price I have to pay for almost complete control over the nature of the game.

I think it should be possible, with MD2 objects for the platforms and transparent textures for the invisible stuff (though latter would most probably work only with Vavoom).

I've decided to instead use invisible things that can act as platforms. Since they can be set at any height, I can make bridges or whatever that can be walked over and under (like the big bridge in map 2) without having to adjust its height.

Is there a chance, when SE is ready, that maybe the 3D models are made available as an upgrade kit for KMOD? I've played DOOM in the new Doomsday Engine using the 3D model packs and I was smiling from ear at seeing how much good they did for the game. If SE's 3D models are also put out as a model upgrade for KMOD, it would an already dynamite add-on that much better.

I plan to include a larger selection of models with KMOD 2.5 than 2.2 had. Don't forget though that most of the new models in SE will be specific to the game itself, and not just 3D conversions of existing Hexen objects. As already ranted about several times, we don't use 3D models in Korax' Heritage becuz they're cool and cutting edge (they're neither, being low polygon count stuff with a couple of exceptions), we use them to make up for deficiencies of the DOOM engine (a sprite chair looks very out of place in any 3D environment when you can get near objects and go around them).

What makes it even better is that Mago did the people himself from scratch.

[quote="Moose":1xj7sm2r]What makes it even better is that Mago did the people himself from scratch. Awesome. Hexen 1 would be alot better with 3d models <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Or at least with the graphics on that banner. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

Look, Tricia, could you please stop shouting around like a vulgar, common chicken? It looks like you came out of AOL suddenly... Do you got "Primal Hunt" already? Is it good?

[quote="Col.J.P.":2wc4ufbk]Look, Tricia, could you please stop shouting around like a vulgar, common chicken? Do you mean that he always puts his posts in bold or am I missing somthing.

So, Moose you got into Korax team? Great... Maybe you can help them deliver something in two or three years... I think I saw a news post several months old which said it will be a demo in September and it should be ready in the Fall of 2002... <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Eheheh... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> And, no, you?re not missing anything... Evil Mage (for me He?s still Dark...) likes to deliver this angry image, but in the reality he?s a very cool guy who plays AvP like some sort of god... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

[quote="Col.J.P.":2zu13rwo]So, Moose you got into Korax team? Great... Maybe you can help them deliver something in two or three years... Not only am I in the team but I have been given powers on this fourm as a mod <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> As for speeding stuff up I'm not so sure. School and my H/W kind of come befor KH <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> And befor you ask for any infos I have been warned like this:[quote="Ramborc":2zu13rwo]You tell this to anyone outside the Korax team and I send a Maulotaur to uproot your house.

Like a lousy lot of bad-behaving children... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Dark Mage: maybe you're just plain old and that's why your eyes need a bold text on this background. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> JP: I'm gonna shoot you... BTW FYI Scattered Evil is an enhanced version of Korax Alpha which was planned for February 2001 or so. Moose: You're mod only as long until you start deleting people's posts (even those lousy ones from Dark Mage). <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Moose: You keep quoting my private underhanded threats and blackmails in public and I'll do something nasty to you <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

[quote="RambOrc":1l8qurul]Moose: You're mod only as long until you start deleting people's posts (even those lousy ones from Dark Mage). <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Are you saying I have to delete or I'm not aloud to delete. [quote="Ramborc":1l8qurul]Moose: You keep quoting my private underhanded threats and blackmails in public and I'll do something nasty to you <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Sorry boss please don't send the 'bull'. (Programming talk):lol:

<!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

He's got at least a couple of Death Wyverns on standby and a Blood Lich on back order if that Maulotaur isn't enough, heheh.

The Blood Lich is on back order from Ichor since last year but he still hasn't delivered it... he claims UPS ground is the cause for the delay but even they aren't this slow so I guess it's something in Ichor's factory after all... ROFL <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

[quote="Moose":28x59jxn]Are you saying I have to delete or I'm not aloud to delete. Oh, it was anything but English... <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> what I meant is I don't like mods deleting people's posts unless it's commercial spam (which we never had in the Korax forums and in the RavenGames forums last occasion was somewhen in 2001 AFAIR). [quote="Moose":28x59jxn]Sorry boss please don't send the 'bull'. (Programming talk) Don't be afraid, I don't like bullying people. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

The hell you don?t... Be careful Moose, when the boss gets angry... If I where you I?ll quit the Korax team quickly... Or else... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Well, everything was going fine, until some dimwit driver caused a 39 car pileup somewhere in Arizona because a bee got into the truck (or so he claims). The Blood Lich and a few dozen Devils got loose, and are now running wild. Fortunately, no one except the kooks are paying much attention to them because they're all used to seeing strange things in the sky anyway.

[quote="Col.J.P.":3tjoiavp]Look, Tricia, could you please stop shouting around like a vulgar, common chicken? It looks like you came out of AOL suddenly... Do you got "Primal Hunt" already? Is it good? LOLOLOLOLOLOOL. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Listen Stacy, I am NOT yelling. I LIKE BOLD. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> If I were yelling. I'd use ALL CAPS. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> And no, do NOT get Primal Hunt. I know enough of it that is stupid. Alot of ppl hate it. It was a BIG dissappointment. Stick to avp2. Lots of good mods are coming to it and Primal Hunt died when they released it. Trust me. It's a CRAP expansion. [quote="RambOrc":3tjoiavp]Like a lousy lot of bad-behaving children... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Dark Mage: maybe you're just plain old and that's why your eyes need a bold text on this background. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> Moose: You're mod only as long until you start deleting people's posts (even those lousy ones from Dark Mage). <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> lol I am NOT old..unless you think a 21 year old Latina misstress is OLD. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> *reads last post* hey....my posts aren't LOUSY. I post just for fun and laughs/MY enjoyment. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Heck, if it weren't for me back then when KMOD was out...you guys would NEVER come to these forums as much as you do now because of my MINDLESS bickering. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Go on...ADMIT it..mwahahahahah... anyways.... So what's for supper? Also, was there ever a thought of allowing signature pictures on this board?

[quote="RambOrc":ghb8n88d]Oh, it was anything but English... <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> what I meant is I don't like mods deleting people's posts unless it's commercial spam (which we never had in the Korax forums and in the RavenGames forums last occasion was somewhen in 2001 AFAIR). Even if I doget to do anything I'm happy to know that I still have power <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> [quote="Ramborc":ghb8n88d]Don't be afraid, I don't like bullying people. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Was that a joke? [quote="Ichor":ghb8n88d]He's got at least a couple of Death Wyverns on standby and a Blood Lich on back order if that Maulotaur isn't enough, heheh. Death Wyverns please no, I'll be good.

A joke Moose? Be careful...no one is allowed to joke in here... Let me tell you a story... I was once part of the Korax team, many years ago, but then they expelled me, saying that I was an intriguist and I was bad mouthing ppl... It was false...they were all jealous of me... Specially Mago, he lives in a very strange place, surrounded by very strange ppl...I even heard they eat human flesh in there... Barbarians... Ichor is an evil doer...a master of darkness...he always denied me his Carnage Galore series... Be careful, Moose, very careful, these guys are quite dangerous... Look I was even blocked by them- they did?nt let me have Korax Mod II I was never able to play it, cause RambOrc disabled the downloads just for me... <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> Yes it was horrible, my life has turned into a living hell since I met this guys... Oh, yes...I was forced to change my name too... Because I used to be called Billy... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> P.S.- I miss that little troublemaker... <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

[quote="Col.J.P.":1pi7xtx9]Be careful, Moose, very careful, these guys are quite dangerous... Look I was even blocked by them- they did?nt let me have Korax Mod II I was never able to play it, cause RambOrc disabled the downloads just for me... <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> It would be funny if they could ban an IP connection from downloading anything from a certain site while others download stuff...looooooooool. That would be funny... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> But still...Why did Billy Boy leave? Did he come just for this `n that and then leave? I happened to be away when he left I guess. P.S. And just for you guys. BOLD <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

But I'm too important for them to boot. If they did how would make them there coffee, yes I'm a programmer but that doesn't mean that I use programming languages, no I just program the coffee machine. What did you do in the team? and why arn't you in the former members bit on the site. IP blocker I'll go one better how about a 'Col.J.P' blocker. Just say the work boss and I'll stop doing M.E.H.W and start thinking of a way to make 'Col.J.P. 'b' gone?' <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: -->

I was the Project Leader, kid... But they were so mean that they deleted all records concerning me... They erased me as if I never existed... That?s why you can?t find me anywhere... <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> And take good care of that coffee machine... Do you clean the toilets too? Just asking... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Yes I clean the toilets on tuesdays I've got to leave for ramborcs house in ? an Hr then I got to be at Ichors for 8:00 GMT. all that and I'm still doing M.E.H.W.

I see... You?re travelling around the world now... Between RambOrc in Switzerland and Ichor in USA, you got a long way to go... Did you found your Co-codomemal? And Moose what about those insider informations you were about to send me? I?m still waiting... I can trade your info on Korax Heritage with some cool hot ones about RamBorc... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Deal?

Only a deal if you can kill off a Maulotaur, 2 Death Wyverns and a Blood Lich for me <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->:D I found them and they could be useful if I do meet a Maulotaur <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

I'm tempted to hack PHPBB and remove the BBcode for the bold tag entirely <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> BTW Moose is not much of a toiler cleaner, he does rather a shitty job... <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> (yep, it's just another of those weak puns like the one about bulls)

Your joke still got me laughing. And hows my coffee? I got 1 Hr till Ichors toilet gets its weekly clean. JP if you loos ever need cleaning just call me you only have to pay for my plane ticket, all food I have on the plane then its ?4.50 an Hr and I take my time.

After starting over half a dozen times and being covered by cold sweat all over, I just gave up on pruning the member database and dropping those members who posted only on the RavenGames forums but never on the Korax' Heritage ones. It's more trouble that it's worth. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> The good news is I did a dbase backup right before I started, meaning maybe 3-4 posts were lost in all (me and Moose talking about the dbase prune).

Shame they were lost I can't remember anything of what I said!!! Its still running a bit odd but not to bad.

??? you mean there's anything odd with the boards since this evening? Did you try force-reloading the pages in your browser (hold down SHIFT on IE or CTRL on Netscape while clicking the Reload button in the menu bar)?

Yes, there is... I was sent to kingdom come... Me, my account and my posts... And I became so damn furious, because I thought it was Moose deleting my posts... In fact I was even forced to create another account to access the forums and see with my own eyes my posts all deleted... It?s another vendetta against me... See what happens, Moose? You say some things they don?t want to hear and you?re thrown to the scorpions... <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

NOW everyone can plainly see JP is a liar, I have proof. He said he had to register yesterday with a new account. Where, pray, is that fucking account then??? The last registered account as of now is from September 25. <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

I wont come here again... They deleted my CPL593H account...today... Bye everyone... It?s been a pleasure...

Am I a liar? Look: Welcome to Korax' Heritage Forums Forums Please keep this email for your records. Your account information is as follows: ---------------------------- Username: CPL593H Password: ***** ---------------------------- Your account is currently inactive. You cannot use it until you visit the following link: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://korax-heritage.com/forums/profile.php?mode=activate&u=1064&act_key=c3acc5d8a9">http://korax-heritage.com/forums/profil ... c3acc5d8a9</a><!-- m --> Please do not forget your password as it has been encrypted in our database and we cannot retrieve it for you. However, should you forget your password you can request a new one which will be activated in the same way as this account. Thank you for registering. -- Korax' Heritage <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.korax-heritage.com">http://www.korax-heritage.com</a><!-- m --> <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Of course I can prove I received that mail yesterday... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

[quote="Col.J.P.":182bcxg8]Yes, there is... I was sent to kingdom come... Me, my account and my posts... And I became so damn furious, because I thought it was Moose deleting my posts... Me, I might be a power mad phyco but I have intelligence. Editing/deleting Evil/Dark mages posts is a different matter all together <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

LOL OK here the story for those who don't understand shit... <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> As some of you might know, the Korax Forums were part of the RavenGames forums for more than a year. After that, I convereted the UBB data into PHPBB format and split the forums. The core RavenGames stuff went to <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ravenforums.com">http://www.ravenforums.com</a><!-- w --> , the Korax part came here. This also meant hundreds of users who never were interested in Korax' Heritage and registered to post at our SoF, Jedi Knight II etc. forums. I wanted to remove them from the database but after trying several times, it always deleted user accounts (along with all posts) it didn't mark as such on the account deletion overview page. That's why I had no idea I deleted JP with all his posts from these forums, and the idiot thought I'd really go as far as ever delete a user, especially w/o notice. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Anyway, JP thought he was kicked and so he didn't ask me about the where and what but simply created a new account. Since I couldn't solve the problem with the deleted accounts and posts other than restoring the database backup, all posts made in that hour or so and all newly registered users were of course "destroyed", as they weren't part of the earlier database backup. Everything clear? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

As muddy water... I think you really meant to delete me... But since I got so many important friends here, like Moose, Ichor, Maginho or Dark Mage, you thought about it twice and restored my old account, but not the new one cause I had already posted some interesting stuff about you as CPL593H... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

What interesting stuff? Shame Ramborc's so fast I didn't get to read your interesting facts.

And I only tell you after you gave me the internal info I requested... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

[quote="Col.J.P.":ojprfyii]And I only tell you after you gave me the internal info I requested... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Fine you can find all alphas, betas, other info and all mago's work here: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://uuuuuu.super_secret_korax_stuff.co.notreal">http://uuuuuu.super_secret_korax_stuff.co.notreal</a><!-- m --> *Wonder if anone will click it. Wonder if it even links to a real site.* And the uuuuuu bit was just a lame joke.

Ok, Moose, a deal is a deal... I will tell you everything... "Tudo come?ou num cinzento dia de inverno, quando eu tentei obter informa??es acerca dum novo Hexen mod chamado Korax... Fui a todo lado sem encontrar nada... Como tinha gostado muito de Korax Mod, mas n?o conseguia jogar DeathKings, fui ao site do meu tio Dick e ele mandou-me, com todas as letras, para o colo de RambOrc em plena RavenGames... Gostei e fiquei..." Got it? Be careful with this... It?s classified information... If RambOrc knows I told you he?ll delete me again... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

This is how Google translated the Portuguese part of your previous post:

Everything started in a cinereous day of winter, when I tried to get information about of a new Hexen mod called Korax... I was the all side without finding nothing... As it had liked very Korax Mod, but n?o obtained to play DeathKings, was to the site of my uncle Dick and it it ordered me, with all the letters, for the col of RambOrc in full RavenGames... I liked and I was...

<!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Nonsense... Does it make sense to you?

OK even in english that didn't make perfect sence but still noone round here does. And why didn't you finish your sentances?

It make sense in portuguese... Ask Mago...

I think I'll rename this PHPBB installation from "Korax' Heritage Forums" to "Moron Club". <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

[quote="RambOrc":391us32c]I think I'll rename this PHPBB installation from "Korax' Heritage Forums" to "Moron Club". <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Would that make you leader of the morons?

<!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> This always happens when I start answering the forums... Next he will be so pissed he disapears for weeks in a row... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

Would you shut your fucking mouth, idiot? <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

See? <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> The boss does?nt have any sense of humour...

He he, you guys make me laugh.

...grabs a few snacks and watches the fun...

Need some coffee?

Nope. I don't drink coffee.

A healthy attitude, especially if it's Moose who put up the water again (from the same source he used for cleaning the toilets). <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

Mynd you, m??se bites Kan be pretty nasti...

BTW I think someone was asking about signature pics (in this thread or another one, dunno). I think all you need to do is put this into your signature: [img]URL[/img].

Is the plural of Moose, meese? One moose, two meese? <!-- s:?: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif" alt=":?:" title="Question" /><!-- s:?: -->

Nope. The plural of moose is... moose.

Thank you very much, Ichor. A well of wisdom as always <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> But meese sounds much better! If it?s not change it. It should be. Like goose One goose, many geese...yes?

[quote="RambOrc":3pt796g5]A healthy attitude, especially if it's Moose who put up the water again (from the same source he used for cleaning the toilets). <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> I use clean water I tell you, just because its brown doesn't mean anything. [quote="Ichor":3pt796g5]Mynd you, m??se bites Kan be pretty nasti... Don't worry I can't bite, I've got a big gap between my top and bottom jaws. And yes that is when my mouth is closed.

M??se trained by TUTTE HERMSGERVORDENBROTBORDA Special M??se Effects OLAF PROT M??se Costumes SIGGI CHURCHILL M??se Choreographed by HORST PROT III Miss Taylor's M??ses by HENGST DOUGLAS-HOME M??se trained to mix concrete and sign com- plicated insurance forms by JURGEN WIGG M??ses' noses wiped by BJORN IRKESTOM-SLATER WALKER Large m??se on the left half side of the screen in the third scene from the end, given a thorough grounding in Latin, French and "O" Level Geography by BO BENN Suggestive poses for the M??se suggested by VIC ROTTER Antler-care by LIV THATCHER

<!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> So many people... Who served the coffee?

I get the feeling someone's missing up moose with rheindeer, or am I wrong? <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->

I shall BAN @ll of j00z spammers wit` my 1337 MOD banning powooooors... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Your have mod powers? And we're not spamming we're having an intelligent convo about me and my coffee making skills.

We are? I thought we were having fun with Monty Python (well, I was anyway).

What I thought is that the inhabitants of the nearby psychological sanitarium broke out and kidnapped this server... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

M000Se- J00z have your 1st warning. No spam anymore. or 3ls3 j00z are @ g0nn3r from dese 4-ums. Ichor- Don't push it smart guy. I'm watching j00z. Rambo-Orc- Behave j00rselfffffff 2!!!!1111!!!111. :God Has Spoken: <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

[quote="Evil Mage":3jq4hwkb]M000Se- J00z have your 1st warning. No spam anymore. or 3ls3 j00z are @ g0nn3r from dese 4-ums. When did I ever spam and talk proper english so I can understand it all.