Nothing to see here, this was spam... [CW] now it will be called this...

Holy Jesus!!! <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Admins !!! DO NOT DELETE THIS!!! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> I want to translate this stuff so you may know what's in there!!! Just one day, please!! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

???? <!-- s:?: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif" alt=":?:" title="Question" /><!-- s:?: -->

it's spam lol.

Haha! Why do you want to translate it <!-- s:?: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif" alt=":?:" title="Question" /><!-- s:?: -->

If I were a regular member of this board, I'd be interested in knowing just with what the forum is being spammed with, specially having someone who can translate it.

So here's the deal. This advertisment sais that: ...some organisation does a spamming of your message on forums. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> 1000 forums - $35 10000 forums - $30 per 1000 forums etc. Total count of russian-language forums: 30000 total count of english-language forums: 8000 (we're in the lucky-forums list <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> ) Posting features: - registering on forum with profile editing - spamming on forums with Guest log-in. etc etc etc Email: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:dzumon@altern.org">dzumon@altern.org</a><!-- e --> Now possibly you may understand who is sending russian spam here? People, what if we launch a spam attack on this mail? Simply - each one write dozens of emails with sayings like "STOP SPAMMING!" "DEATH TO SPAMMERS" and such? <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: -->

That's probably of no use, since it must be some automatic mail box like the ones used to register on forums etc... Damn it man, why they think forcing stuff into people's throat will get them finnancial results???

Maybe because we have members who have Russia in their location profile, the scan or something they di to find forums thought this was a russian forum also and that's probably why they started sending those messages in russian...

The trouble is, an astonishingly high number of morons actually act on spam and by the crap - that's the sole reason there is still spam around. If those shitheads wouldn't do it, spam would've died out long ago. As always, the problem is not the couple of twisted-minded sociopaths who do shit, but the millions of stupid sheep who go along with it.

[quote="mago":16nenlvz]That's probably of no use, since it must be some automatic mail box like the ones used to register on forums etc... It sais this mail is for CONTACTS. I am going to try anyway.

welcome to the internet

Crimson the only result of you sending a mail there will be getting your address on the list of confirmed mailboxes and it'll go all around the world, from list to list and you'll never again be able to get rid of yourself of all the spam.

<!-- s:evil: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad" /><!-- s:evil: --> I think we need International Anti-Spammers Law, which will sentence most active spammers to penal servitude on the uranium mines for the rest of their life .

No law will suffice as long as big money is to be made on spamming. OTOH the moment spamming wouldn't make money, it'd die of its own accord. That is why the millions of fucking mindless sheep who click on links and buy spam ad products are the real cause of all this shit. <!-- s:evil: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad" /><!-- s:evil: --> Oh yes and also the millions of dumb as shit Winblows users who don't even know their crappy PCs are zombies. <!-- s:evil: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad" /><!-- s:evil: -->

It's totally shitty, but it exists <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> and the worst thing is that there isn't anything one can do about it.

[quote="RambOrc":3s58fo0v]Oh yes and also the millions of dumb as shit Winblows users who don't even know their crappy PCs are zombies. <!-- s:evil: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif" alt=":evil:" title="Evil or Very Mad" /><!-- s:evil: --> I think I eventually change to GNU os only to get rid of the feeling these words are related to me as well. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

Well it IS related to everybody using Winblows - with the latest Winblows emulation and virtualization software out there for both Mac OS X and GNU/Linux, there is no valid reason any more to have a PC runnnig Winblows as main OS any more.

I heard the news recently that Ugo Chavez (spelling?) wants his government change to Linux totally to save money for social needs.

It's just like the browsers, educated people use Safari, Firefox or some other modern browser. Only the uneducated sheep is still running M$ IE (yes you are a sheep too if you read this on IE).

what about Mac IE?

[quote="RambOrc":3k22k0hw]It's just like the browsers, educated people use Safari, Firefox or some other modern browser. Only the uneducated sheep is still running M$ IE (yes you are a sheep too if you read this on IE). Actually I simply don't care... But what's the difference?

[quote="Crimson Wizard":22ung3wr][quote="RambOrc":22ung3wr]It's just like the browsers, educated people use Safari, Firefox or some other modern browser. Only the uneducated sheep is still running M$ IE (yes you are a sheep too if you read this on IE). Actually I simply don't care... But what's the difference? Sorry to say but you ARE sheep if you mean what you just wrote. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> The difference between using IE or a modern browser like Firefox or Safari to surf is comparable to the difference between using electricity from a nuclear plant or from solar energy: if you are dumb enough not to care and not to look, you might make yourself believe it's the same, but in reality IE/nuclear energy is a very dangerous thing to play with and creates a lots of damage and grief which the big bullies try to cover up. [quote="CheapAlert":22ung3wr]what about Mac IE? What about it? It doesn't exist and hasn't for the last couple of years. Ever since Apple released Safari it stopped making sense and even MS did officially discontinue all support for it last year and they even did officially post on their website that Mac users should use Safari instead (this is really true).

Usually when I ask about differences between software I am not expecting allegorical answer. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> I guess you mean IE is less safe. But what does it mean? Leaks for viruses and spambots? Bugs that can crush my PC? You see, If I have such information, it would be a reason to do something. [quote="RambOrc":1fzbsgbz]Sorry to say but you ARE sheep if you mean what you just wrote I do not care because: 1) It does what I need and I do not need anything more from internet browser. 2) I am not going to care about such things of how to scan several websites per day. I am not living in Internet (as some people do <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> ) and being an undemanding (and very lazy) person I do not want to spend time to fix what works nice for my plain needs.

Well how about this? Just a couple of differences off the top of my head: - smaller memory footprint - quicker rendering - less resource usage (system load) - security system designed with the internet in mind (M$ IE has no security concept and wasn't designed for the internet but for the intranet) - true, working popup blocking (IE blocks popups it shouldn't but ads are still popping up, their implementation is useless) - adblocker plugins available (I don't have to view banners or Flash banners unlike you) - no automatic spyware and virus downloads - no security breaches ? la ActiveX - working text scalability on websites (not even the IE 7 beta can do it right, Mozilla could do it like 5 years ago) - supports modern web technologies - is web standards compliant - etc...

Oh yeah I nearly forgot if you use IE and webmail get ready for spam... any malicious website on the internet can read out your IE cookies and determine what your Hotmail etc address is and then flood it with spam.

Haha! I've changed from browsers some time ago, and I've seen some screens of what M$ IE 7 is, it really is a cheap copy of Firefox's features, that makes sense, since a lot of people has switched from IE to Firefox from some time to now, I think that might explain why IE is so lame built in it's new version, maybe M$ is finally aware that none will use IE 7, hehe!

<!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> Ok, people, I swear I try changing to something else. In a future... Well, probably I finally buy myself a modest laptop on my nearest birthday so I will be able to experiment with some advanced OS.

Why don't you do multi-boot on your current computer? Much cheaper.

RambOrc, I don't mean this as a personal attack on you, but in my honest opinion, people who snob and pompously boast at how they don't use MS products are far more bothersome than those who ardently use them. Sure, any rational educated programmer would use alternative software (I use Firefox and Yahoo as opposed to IE and Outlook, AND I plan on switching to Linux once I get my own com), but if it gets to the point where they become so full of themselves they call MS-users "sheep," I think that the MS-users would be far less inclined to switch to alternative software because nobody likes being attacked this way. And besides, what's the point of switching to a new OS if you're just going to use a Windows emulator all the time? Inferior as Windows is, you're just gobbling CPU like booze.

[quote="RambOrc":2mvnzbph]Why don't you do multi-boot on your current computer? Much cheaper. Ofcourse, but I really need extra machine at home, at least used one - simply for work (not for gaming I mean), because most of week I have very limited time when I may use my home PC (my father and my sister use it as well, and usually just the time I need it <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> ). As for extra boot, again, maybe. But anyway all these sayings are hypothetical, since I'll have to learn about Linux first before I ever try to install it anywhere, and I do not know when all this happen. [quote="The 4th Class":2mvnzbph]RambOrc, I don't mean this as a personal attack on you, but in my honest opinion, people who snob and pompously boast at how they don't use MS products are far more bothersome than those who ardently use them. You are so-so-so right, Lucas. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> I'd say more: sometimes it looks like religious fanatism. I even had idea of writing a short story about GNU-users Jihad against MS... <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

I wasn't talking about emulation but virtualization, which has very little overhead. As for being full of it, yes I know I am but this is my personal opinion about M$ and people who actually use their shit voluntarily, and I'm not afraid/ashamed of saying it out loud. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> But it's not religious fanatism, it's the result of a huge amount of frustration and problems encountered over the years.

By the way, I was just looking on the golden-font topic title above... Don't you think that these stylized symbols may be used to imitate some ancient hieroglyphic language for our RPG Trilogy? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

I realized that I may type here same way as spambot. Here's a phrase "Welcome mortals!" typed in english but using russian keyboard mode: [size=150:3gnk05bz][color=darkblue:3gnk05bz]???????? ???????![/color:3gnk05bz][/size:3gnk05bz] same phrase fully translated in russian: [size=150:3gnk05bz][color=darkblue:3gnk05bz]????? ??????????, ????????![/color:3gnk05bz][/size:3gnk05bz]

[quote="Crimson Wizard":llf5340q]By the way, I was just looking on the golden-font topic title above... Don't you think that these stylized symbols may be used to imitate some ancient hieroglyphic language for our RPG Trilogy? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> Not really, given that these are all valid characters in one European language or another.

You know, this talk about foreign characters reminds me of a language* I once made up in around 2002, complete with bilingual dictionary* AND a unique writing system. As an example, I gave an example below: it's in English, translating RambOrc's last post here: [img:643il5nq]http://www.freewebs.com/orchestratedchaos/Ramborcingargoylian.JPG[/img:643il5nq] Maybe RambOrc the graduate linguist can (attempt frustratingly to) analyze this wonderful alphabet of mine? <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> *Both of these are way out of date, I've got some newer ones saved on file somewhere.

It has even "pornography" word... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> I am shocked.

I'm curious why that's the first word you looked for. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

No, I was scrolling it down reading english words listed then suddenly noticed it. You see, I am usually a bit confused by.. err... such words. A rather shy person. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> (j/k)

[quote="Crimson Wizard":2bfl657i]No, I was scrolling it down reading english words listed then suddenly noticed it. You see, I am usually a bit confused by.. err... such words. A rather shy person. Yeah! Sure <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->, hehe!

Okay, who changed the topic title? <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

What! We are discussing linguistics now, right? Who wants to see that text of the spam message there? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> If you want, you can put it back, hehe!

That's really up to CW, since it was his heartfelt plea not to delete it. At any rate, I don't know how to change it back yet. <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: -->

[quote="The 4th Class":1vaq2eqj]I'm curious why that's the first word you looked for. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> for some reason "pornography" seems to be a running joke. I remember reading a track in one of lucas' midi files reading "pornography" Ironically, the song sounded like pornography!

Are you guys crazy?? <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o --> Who's changing the topic title for the 2nd time?

Well, we ARE talking about porn, aren't we? <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

My site used to house some gargoyle porn. It doesn't anymore though after a new host and such

[quote="CheapAlert":2uh18w26]gargoyle porn Huh??? <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.planetgargoyle.com/openarena/gargndy.jpg">http://www.planetgargoyle.com/openarena/gargndy.jpg</a><!-- m --> <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

I wonder what that model is like in animation. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

you sicken me.

Ughhh <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> That's disgusting...

No it's not, it's far from disgusting

I'd rather say it is natural <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

CW, you are absolutely correct. Why does society get so squeamish at such a normal site of the male body? Why not get upset at the sight of a bare foot, or chin? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

OTOH this is a 13+ forum, so unless you want the possibility of pissed off parents or some other authority, you better don't link to any kind of content that can be interpreted as sexual content.

Like this? : <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> SOFT PORNO

If there won't be public KH forums any more, you'll cry not I. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

[quote="The 4th Class":jan5nd72]CW, you are absolutely correct. Why does society get so squeamish at such a normal site of the male body? Why not get upset at the sight of a bare foot, or chin? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> I just wouldn't expect to see that on a gargoyle.

[quote="RambOrc":mattlvqq]OTOH this is a 13+ forum, so unless you want the possibility of pissed off parents or some other authority, you better don't link to any kind of content that can be interpreted as sexual content. I'm still confused why a bloody and violent game like Hexen constitutes as okay for 13+ forums, but not natural body parts.

That's because you haven't grown up in a country (USA) where from early childhood on you are taught that violence and aggression are suitable for minors, but sexuality is not.

RambOrc, you should move to Canada. Ours is arguably the most Anti-American culture you'll ever find. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

<!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> funny... I thought Northern Korea or Iran....

[quote="Crimson Wizard":ezcmpvvm]Like this? : <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> SOFT PORNO <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> WTF!!

[quote="The 4th Class":2bhq1fga]CW, you are absolutely correct. Why does society get so squeamish at such a normal site of the male body? Why not get upset at the sight of a bare foot, or chin? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> a foot? a CHIN?! keep it 13+ please!

[quote="Crimson Wizard":30dj7yhd]Like this? : <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> UGH NOW YOU'RE ENTERING FURRY TERRITORY that's worse than this which is at least sane but cut <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( -->

BTW, when did you have Anatomy in school (or colledge?) ? I remember it was 7th or 8th school year of mine, thus I was... 13 or 14 years old then. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> not mentioning Biology that we began to study on 5th (or 6th, can't remember exactly) year, there were topics about reproduction ofcourse. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

Me, sex-ed began at grade 5 (age 10) but that was mostly just non-sexual parts of the reproductive system (like "that time of the month," bla bla bla). It wasn't until one year or two later when they taught us they go together (surprise surprise <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->). Quite frankly all of the students, especially those on sports teams, learned a lot more in the change rooms than they did in the classrooms. <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> And I find CW's beanie baby collection softer than Cheapy's gargoyle sketch. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

We didn't have sex ed at school at all, when we were 14 we had one single lection, something like 30-45 mins on this topic, boys and girls separately. The only thing I still remember is the story our teacher told about a boy our age (14-15) who let a grown man fuck him in the ass because he really wanted the skateboard the guy promised him... <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

wow, it's been long since i didn't browse this forum but heck, you guys are really growing up and coming to new levels in your discussions <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> snif... i'm proud of you... go gay gargoyle porn! <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

Pepi's got a point: this is all manporn we're showing off here. Time to take it to the next level. This is my present to you all to celebrate my birthday. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> And this is going to sound horrible, but most of the kids here start having sex with each other while or even before they start "learning" about it in the classrooms, and my 12-year old sister is taking sex-ed right now. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> Not that it's wrong, but they just don't know about the risks involved in doing it. The hope in the school board is that teaching them in the classrooms may help curb the curiosities, but I think it does that at the price of making them crave it more. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> Or maybe I'm just jealous because I didn't get any at that young an age, j/k. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

[quote="The 4th Class":2diya9in]Pepi's got a point: this is all manporn we're showing off here. Time to take it to the next level. This is my present to you all to celebrate my birthday. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> Now we are talking, heh! <!-- s=P~ --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_drool.gif" alt="=P~" title="Drool" /><!-- s=P~ --> Happy birthday to you 4th! <!-- s\:D/ --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_dance.gif" alt="\:D/" title="Dancing" /><!-- s\:D/ -->

I am in first year of the secondary school (age 13), and I haven't (and will not have, for what I know) had any sex-ed, except the ocasional video from johnson and johnson's in the statal school, which are almost a practical joke. The video (looks almost home-made) shows a kid saying "mi pene era chiquito, y ahora es grande" (my penis was little, and now it's big), and stuff like that. The impression I get is that you have to "find out" that stuff (movies of the 13+ kind, American* series, etc.), or else your friends will probably have already "found out", and, well, you find out too. In fact, there is an ongoing political discussion on whether to implement sexual education or not in public school, exactly what the Church doesn't want. In the meantime, there is a complete void in the subject by public primary (6 to 12 years) and secondary (13 to 17 years) schools. Come to think of it, the most explained sexual education was given to my school division by a group of schoolmates who chose "The sexuality in adolescents" as a topic for a monography and exposition. But think that this was given the same attention as another exposition about the FIFA world cups. *about the "American" adjective: I, until recently, refused, as many other argentinians, to use it to refer to things or people from the U.S.A. because America is the name of the whole continent. But, if I am not wrong, from what I've heard, Mexico's complete name is "Estados Unidos de M?jico", and if Mexico is called Mexico, well, the US should be called America <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->

The reason schools want to teach sex-ed is because, quite frankly, religious organizations don't want to do it, and parents don't have the courage to do it. For the religion, reproduction is so taboo that if we had it the fundamentalist's way, we'd still be stoning women for failing to produce sons (which any educated person knows is bullshit). And some Christian die-hards (about 1% of the whole Christian population) still believe in that, and they're the ones in control of the papacy. And Count, when you said "Johnson and Johnson", at first I thought you meant Master's and Johnson, arguably the most important pioneers in the sex field. Now THAT would be educational! <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> And technically, North and South America combined are called the Americas, not America, but still, everybody on the two continents can call themselves American. And the U.S. was named after the continent was, so after the American revolution, the revolting states collectively called themselves the United States of America, after the continent. Though if you ask me, on a historical basis, the continent should be called Europe's Bitch. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Happy birthday, Lucas <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> I had birthday recently too <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> Well, simply to support this topic, - we do not have any sex-ed at all, although I remember our teacher commented all this... er... stuff <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> briefly on Anatomy lessons. And I haven't heard any significant discussions about adding sex-ed in schoolls. I occasionally remembered one commercial from some europian or american TV maybe, our do not has such ... yet (and thank god it hasn't). There was a story of a young man who came to supermarket with his little son. His son wished to have some candies and his father didn't want to buy them, then the boy went hystericall, started to cry, shout, he was running, jumping, rolling on floor etc. A father looked on all this with depression and there was a writing on screen: "Use condoms"... I was totally shocked. For me it looked like they said "kill this child". This was like sudden flash - I saw this society, which would rather teach to use condoms and thus evade any problem, than to bring up a child and teach him reasonable behavior. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( -->

I totally agree with you, CW. <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> Frankly, a commercial like that is too low class even for American TV, and American TV is awful. This reminds me of the abortion debate all over again, is it better to eliminate the unborn child or to cope with raising it your whole life? In my personal opinion, I'm pro-choice, I believe that yes, if a couple are so negligent and stupid to misuse a contraceptive, think of how negligent and stupid they would be to the child. I say children should only be born if their parents actually wanted the child, because the parents would most likely be in the best financial and emotional situation to nurture it, and the child would overall live a happier life. As for the screaming child, this is a classic example of why disciplining children has gone so horribly wrong. I'm sick and tired of everybody complaining here that children behaved much better before the 90's than they do today, because spanking and corporal punishment was acceptable and legal back then. Children have always behaved badly because that's how they were taught to get what they want as babies, when all they could do to communicate was cry and throw tantrums. Parents in this age seem to think "disciplining" means "punishing bad behaviour," when in reality it means "guiding and shaping behaviour." I could continue, but frankly this issue constantly pisses me off too much. <!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt=":x" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> PS CW are you a sociology student? Every negative criticism you mention links to the problems of society. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> Do you think humans should just be at one with the trees and be isolated from everyone else? <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> j/k

And P.S.2: Thank you for the congrats. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Guess how old I am now. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

[quote="The 4th Class":18fjrbw3] And some Christian die-hards (about 1% of the whole Christian population) still believe in that, and they're the ones in control of the papacy. You mean there are still attempts of people like Enrique XVIII, that would decapitate his wives because they gave them a girl instead of a boy? Like Borges would say about peronists, esa gente destila ignorancia. [quote="The 4th Class":18fjrbw3]And technically, North and South America combined are called the Americas, not America That I didn't know. It appears that the official name around here is "Continente Americano" (American Continent). [quote="The 4th Class":18fjrbw3]Though if you ask me, on a historical basis, the continent should be called Europe's Bitch. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s=D> --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_clap.gif" alt="=D>" title="Applause" /><!-- s=D> --> [quote="Crimson Wizard":18fjrbw3]And I haven't heard any significant discussions about adding sex-ed in schoolls. That's because I was commenting something I heard about a decision to be made in the Ciudad de Buenos Aires. I should have mentioned that <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> About the commercial, it's downright barbaric. [quote="The 4th Class":18fjrbw3]I believe that yes, if a couple are so negligent and stupid to misuse a contraceptive, think of how negligent and stupid they would be to the child Exactly. [quote="The 4th Class":18fjrbw3]Every negative criticism you mention links to the problems of society. That's because Crimson Wizard probably understands that everything comes down to the problems of society and the squirrel-men <!-- s\:D/ --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eusa_dance.gif" alt="\:D/" title="Dancing" /><!-- s\:D/ --> (j k)

[quote="The 4th Class":y8cjaa8g]CW are you a sociology student? No I am a beginner programmer (as I mentioned in my profile).

Every negative criticism you mention links to the problems of society.

I think the most right answer here is: that's because I see social problems almost every day in life and on TV, and in Internet articles, and, I'm afraid, I slowly begin to hate humanity in general. <!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt=":x" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> [quote="The 4th Class":y8cjaa8g]Guess how old I am now. 19 ? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

America as a whole continent got his name from Amerigo Vespucci, and whether it's singular or plural doesn't matter, an American is basically everybody who lives in any of the states on the continent, but in common US usage it refers only to citizens of the United States of America.

CW: 18 <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> RambOrc: But why name it after Vespucci? Seems like Columbus "discovered" the continents first (excluding the natives who'd been living there for tens of thousands of yeas, of course <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> ), and even then there's discussion the Vikings "discovered" it first.

wow, i think you took that commercial to seriously. I have seen that one yesterday (in class <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->) and found it pretty funny. But well, if it happens IRL it is pretty sad. @count, 13 pirulos? pens? que eras m?s grande <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o --> about sexual education, i had it in biology when i was around 12-13. But i still prefer porn discussion <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

[quote="PePe QuiCoSE":1y62qsvx]@count, 13 pirulos? pens? que eras m?s grande <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o --> No es la primera vez que me lo dicen <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

Based on shitty online translator, I get the impression Pepi you're mocking his penis size. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Serves you right for speaking not English on an English only forumboard.

looooooooooooooooooooooool not only speaking spanish, but slang =) pirulos = years age old. I said he seems older than just 13 <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> sooo... back to pr0n discussion? <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

[quote="The 4th Class":3ly2eraf]I get the impression Pepi you're mocking his penis size. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Hey c'mon, with a word like "grande" and the fact the online translator didn't recognize "pirulos" gave me reasonable evidence. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> (I thought pirulos meant inch or something)

BTW, back to the pr0n discussion, there's a new user online named SolidSnakeXL. <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->

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[quote="The 4th Class":2t3m7krq]Hey c'mon, with a word like "grande" and the fact the online translator didn't recognize "pirulos" gave me reasonable evidence. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> (I thought pirulos meant inch or something) jajajajajajaja Oh, sorry, I mean, hahahahaha <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> [quote="The 4th Class":2t3m7krq]BTW, back to the pr0n discussion, there's a new user online named SolidSnakeXL. Yeah, seeing a member named like that made me think of a porn-ad bot. Made me think about why someone would give himself such a username(btw, I almost type "maked" instead of "made" <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> )

Pray he won't check this thread, pr0n-discussers! <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> and check this: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.korax-heritage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=17435&sid=a6ef169f2ef07bdfa34c9da70157df94#17435">http://www.korax-heritage.com/forums/vi ... df94#17435</a><!-- m -->

SolidSnakeXL can also sound like some commando-crazy guy. <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) -->

SolidSnakeXL can also sound like some commando-crazy guy. Wink

fitted into a japanese game console... quite big? <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

My sister says it's a character from Metal Gear Solid. <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->

Global Warming coming!... We have snow today. Anyone else? <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Nope, the weather here in Mexico has been strange too, it's still raining A LOT, normally some time ago rains are supposed to be stopped, but it keeps raining here, strange...

It's getting colder here in Canada. There was just a glaze of snow today early in the morning, but by noon it all melted. Relatively dry, no huge rainstorms for some number of weeks. BTW CW why'd you start a weather discussion here? <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

A few months ago it snowed in buenos aires. Actually, it was a "granizo", which would be ice rocks falling. That never happens here, though after the first granizo the governor is always warning about another. He's not too smart [quote="The 4th Class":3infs8h7]BTW CW why'd you start a weather discussion here? Maybe to make the thread reach 100 posts...

*spams* <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

In the Developer's forum there's a thread that has 315 posts. And that's nothing compared to more public forumboards where some threads have 1000's. <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> By the way, I think the English word for granizo is "hail." I don't know, I'm just basing it on your description. BTW TheCount would you happen to know if there are any cruise ships or just general vessels that sail from Argentina to Antarctica? Just curious, I always envisioned celebrating my 30th birthday by spending a few weeks in the southern tip of Argentina an then heading to Antarctica by boat. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

[quote="The 4th Class":1wdfrmqw]By the way, I think the English word for granizo is "hail." I don't know, I'm just basing it on your description. Funny that, in russian it is "grad" that sounds a bit similar to "granizo". We have it in summer too sometimes <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> [quote="The 4th Class":1wdfrmqw]BTW TheCount would you happen to know if there are any cruise ships or just general vessels that sail from Argentina to Antarctica? Das Geheim Nazi Unterseeboot <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: -->

[quote="The 4th Class":a793umtq]BTW TheCount would you happen to know if there are any cruise ships or just general vessels that sail from Argentina to Antarctica? Just curious, I always envisioned celebrating my 30th birthday by spending a few weeks in the southern tip of Argentina an then heading to Antarctica by boat. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> I have no idea <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Last thing I heard about argentinian Antartica was about an argentinian base. Something really funny, you know? The base burnt down <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> In the middle of a continent of ice <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> And btw, you ain't gonna find a lot of interesting stuff in the southern tip of Argentina. Though I always wanted to see the Isla de los Estados, where a prison used to be. Well, it wasn't a prison, they just took the prisoners and left them all alone in the island. Heh. And it'd be more convinient to go to the Malvinas instead, I'm sure they're more civilized there than in the Patagonia.

Yeah, but in Patagonia there are incredible seal colonies, I'll head there one day, I love those animals... In fact there are thousands of places I need to go, hopefully I won't die too soon... <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> BTW Class, your dream sounds awfully dangerous to me, from what I understand that part of the ocean is particularly severe, I saw this brazillian expedtion going there and they were having all kinds of trouble reaching South "polo".

i've been to Puerto (Port) Madryn and it is quite beautiful. Saw penguins and seals and erm... lobos marinos and elefantes marinos (meh, seals but bigger and uglier). No whales though, they usually appear in spring and went in summer. And count, the south is very prepared for tourism, since they actually live for it. Drawback is that is expensive now due to the icome of euros, even though there are usually different fees for mercosur and other tourists. AFAIK, 4th there are naval vessel that do that trip to antartica and do a lot of time on open sea (like months). No idea if there are commercial one, like cruisers. Still, there are lot of cruisers that go around the patagonia and i think they continue to chile. and yes, granizo is hail.

I'll be going to puerto Madryn next year with the Carlos Pellegrini <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

Meh, the trip to Puerto Madryn has been cancelled today. There's a lot of mess at my school ATM.