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Is Heretic 1 any good?

Thu, 26 Sep 2002 00:46:51

Evil Mage

Guys, I have seen Heretic 2 pics and I never wanted to try it because I HATE third person game... <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> But I was reading up on Heretic 1 and it's just like HEXEN YAAY <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> . So, what do you guys think of Heretic 1? I need some input here as to if it's as much fun as Hexen 1. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> Also- WTF is this shit? [img:1ar2vcu6]http://agdb.net.ru/images/heretic_1.jpg[/img:1ar2vcu6] and this.. [img:1ar2vcu6]http://agdb.net.ru/images/heretic_2.jpg[/img:1ar2vcu6] And 1 more thing, can Heretic 1 run on JHexen, or Vavoom, or 1 of thos KMOD video accelerators?
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 06:47:27

Moose

Heretic is pritty good and yes it will work with JHeretic and Vavoom. If you've played CG3 with cleric then you'll know what the weapon in the second pic is.
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:26:17

Ichor

If it wasn't for Heretic, I probably wouldn't have even considered getting Hexen. Basically it's a greatly improved version of Doom. It doesn't have as many artifacts as Hexen, but it does have a couple that Hexen (or, the original Hexen anyway) does not, like the Shadowsphere and Tome of Power. Other artifacts act a little differently, like the Morph Ovum turning you into a chicken and the Wings of Wrath being only temporary. There's no class selection, but you make up for it with eight weapons (with two in the 1 spot). The editing is somewhat more limited than Hexen, with no scripts, polyobjects, or dormant things. You can still come up with some wacky ideas though.
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:36:00

Evil Mage

Ok, thnkx for the input guys. *Goes off to download Heretic* <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Oh yeah, what is Death Kings of the Citadel or something like that?....Is that a Hexen expansion or what?....What does it include?
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:00:33

Ichor

That is the expansion pack to Hexen. Basically, it's three new episodes.
Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:55:15

RambOrc

The difference between Heretic and Hexen is comparable to the difference between DOOM and DOOM II... 3x9 levels instead of 31 in 5 smaller blocks, no annoying and barely solvable puzzles, more balanced gameplay (rather a steady flow of monsters instead of nearly empty areas combined with some big battles you can barely manage). The points where this analogy doesn't work is Hexen's hub system and that the puzzles are something you can learn and then they're easy, unlike DOOM II's annoying and stupid "puzzles" and traps that pissed me off even after knowing what's coming. All in all, I'd say of the 4 games Heretic is by far the best. Hexen is not a bad game and was fun for a much longer time than today's games. OTOH all those new features in Hexen people always talk about have great potential and make Hexen the most optimal DOOM engine game to develop new mods upon, but for the original game's gameplay they didn't do nearly as much as people think. As far as I'm concerned, the hub system, the complex puzzles and the scripted events make the gameplay, if anything, less fun in the long run. I like Heretic's fast and furious action a lot better. DOOM and Heretic are one of the very few FPS games ever where you can play the game map by map just warping to it and plunging into the action. Every single map of Heretic and DOOM is designed in the way that you can just warp in and w/o adding yourself weapons or other stuff with cheats, you can beat the map. Back in the late 1990s I've played Heretic a lot on skill 5, map by map. This way you can pick the parts of a game you like best and enjoy them w/o having to play parts you don't like that much. p.s. Regarding Heretic, see <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ravengames.com/heretic/">http://www.ravengames.com/heretic/</a><!-- m --> . You can also find a lot of info about Deathkings at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ravengames.com/hexen/deathkings/">http://www.ravengames.com/hexen/deathkings/</a><!-- m -->
Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:40:18

Evil Mage

I got HERETIC FINALLY!! <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> I loaded it up with JHeretic engine and it was better then normal. But I think Vavoom will be give me better effects as it did with Hexen. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> What do you guys think on the 2 engines?
Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:46:07

Firebrand

I think that Jheretic has the most cooler visuals I have ever seen and the model support make it the best on visuals, but it doesn't has as much editing features as Vavoom which can help you make some very cool effects for traps and things like that, just think on what you would like to have. If you want cool effects and traps I would choose Vavoom and if you want better visuals you can choose Jheretic... make your choice! <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:01:31

Evil Mage

[quote="Firebrand":1oueq2jq]I think that Jheretic has the most cooler visuals I have ever seen and the model support make it the best on visuals, but it doesn't has as much editing features as Vavoom which can help you make some very cool effects for traps and things like that, just think on what you would like to have. If you want cool effects and traps I would choose Vavoom and if you want better visuals you can choose Jheretic... make your choice! <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Ooops..I meant NOT for editing. But just for gameplay. I meant to say, "Which engine gives me better visuals and lighting and all that stuff for gameplay?"
Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:45:55

Col.J.P.

It?s bullshit, Acid... Forget it! I will show you one these days <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->
Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:27:53

Evil Mage

[quote="Col.J.P.":26s57q4y]It?s bullshit, Acid... Forget it! I will show you one these days <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: --> Well ok, but I used Doomsday now. It's great for Heretic. i haven't played much of it but fight the first few enemies. Shadow Warrior and AvPGe take more of my time now. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

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