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Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:47:47

The 4th Class

Between the Buried and Me Black Dahlia Murder Bury Your Dead Cephalic Carnage Into Eternity Protest the Hero The Red Chord Through The Eyes Of The Dead Unearth If you don't like any of these consider yourself an old fart. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> I'm posting this because I just spend my entire weekend studying listening to these bands. Today is an exciting time for extreme metal! Small venues are filling like mad and new TALENTED artists are now easier to find than drugs. (And don't even get me started on the great role the Internet is playing on promoting them). Methinks a new artform is brewing along the east coast. <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> Would also like to add that I've seen all these bands live within the last year, got BTBAM and CC to sign some merch, smoked weed with the drummer from Red Chord... these musicians are just so grateful for their fans, it's a breath of fresh air.
Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:24:15

TheCount

What kind of metal are they? I'd check myself in the metal archives, but i'm too lazy to.
Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:55:09

The 4th Class

Myspace is your friend. Basically most of them fit under the giant metalcore umbrella, except Into Eternity which is Scandinavian-inspired progressive death metal, and Cephalic Carnage and Red Chord which are grindcore and deathcore, respectively. O yeah, and BTBAM defies all genres, they are like a progressive mathcore. Protest are kinda melodic hardcore, but their newer stuff is very technical and very promising. And BYD is straight-up moshcore, while Unearth is like a melodic moshcore, though most all their fans call them metalcore.
Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:04:57

TheCount

Progressive death metal? Is there such a thing? <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> Btw if I didn't bother to look in the metal archives I surely wasn't gonna check myspace...
Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:15:59

The 4th Class

[quote="TheCount":2q5usg41]Progressive death metal? Is there such a thing? <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Cynic, Death (mid 90s era), Necrophagist, Opeth and Quo Vadis are among the first that come to mind. <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> [quote="TheCount":2q5usg41]Btw if I didn't bother to look in the metal archives I surely wasn't gonna check myspace... Well it's not that hard a task: you click my link, and their songs automatically play. If you're too lazy to press a single mouse button it's a mystery how you even registered an account here. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->
Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:49:16

TheCount

Just replying to the "Myspace is your friend" indirect message...
Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:20:28

The 4th Class

seriously though y'all better appreciate these talented fuckers
Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:10:29

TheCount

I'll look into them someday... however, I dislike all kinds of metal that end with "core" (merely a coincidence). All this reminded me of a very funny band I've been told of: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1347">http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1347</a><!-- m --> According to a friend, one of the guys is actually backing vocals and machete swinger... I looked them up in youtube and he was right... he does the backing vocals and swings the machete around while they play.
Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:57:54

Col.J.P.

I do not know any of those you point there. Lately I've been following Nuclear Blast groups and Gothic Metal as a whole Tristania (now dead) Sirenia Therion The Sins of Thy Beloved My Dying Bride Draconian Opeth Darkwell Moonspell Epica Kamelot Nightwish(now dying too) and of course Arch Enemy <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->
Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:15:06

Valherran

Jeebus, you havent posted in 2 years... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? -->
Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:15:48

Col.J.P.

[quote="Valherran":6ndhjj7y]Jeebus, you havent posted in 2 years... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> Me? Nonsense! How do you know that if you joined us in 2007????
Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:01:33

The 4th Class

Nice choices JP, Opeth and Therion are some sweet musicians! Nightwish are cool too, and I've been meaning to get into Kamelot some time. Long live 10 minute metal epics <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->
Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:00:56

Col.J.P.

I'm a proud Therion Society Member! LOL I forgot Echoes of Eternity and of course the nazi-pop Rammstein <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:00:23

TheCount

[quote="Col.J.P.":3r844uae]Arch Enemy Arch Enemy is the coolest simply for having a female as a death vocalist. [quote="The 4th Class":3r844uae]Long live 10 minute metal epics <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> I personally don't like overly epic themes or power metal in general. [quote="Valherran":3r844uae]Jeebus, you havent posted in 2 years... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> Metal has such power.
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:54:23

Valherran

[quote="Col.J.P.":24nymdm2][quote="Valherran":24nymdm2]Jeebus, you havent posted in 2 years... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> Me? Nonsense! How do you know that if you joined us in 2007???? because you profile states that you havent posted in 2 years till now. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:28:14

Col.J.P.

[quote="Valherran":1bmv6kd2][quote="Col.J.P.":1bmv6kd2][quote="Valherran":1bmv6kd2]Jeebus, you havent posted in 2 years... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> Me? Nonsense! How do you know that if you joined us in 2007???? because you profile states that you havent posted in 2 years till now. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Probably the profile doesn't state the developers forum, that's why.
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:51:40

The 4th Class

[quote="TheCount":33o5h2of]I personally don't like overly epic themes or power metal in general. You are really starting to piss me off now. <!-- s:x --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt=":x" title="Mad" /><!-- s:x --> Ignorant fool! Die painfully listening to the majestics of Blind Guardian. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:24:30

Valherran

[quote="Col.J.P.":27ran2an][quote="Valherran":27ran2an][quote="Col.J.P.":27ran2an][quote="Valherran":27ran2an]Jeebus, you havent posted in 2 years... <!-- s:? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":?" title="Confused" /><!-- s:? --> Me? Nonsense! How do you know that if you joined us in 2007???? because you profile states that you havent posted in 2 years till now. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Probably the profile doesn't state the developers forum, that's why. Maybe true, but i never see your name in the post box of the developers thread, the only name i see there like 70% of the time is Firebrand. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:44:01

Col.J.P.

<!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> Could someone please tell Valherran that I'm a beta-tester and a pain in the ass for you guys for over 5 years? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> [quote="TheCount":35xg1nrz]Arch Enemy is the coolest simply for having a female as a death vocalist. Of course, did you noticed my list being populated by female fronted metal bands? Male growlers are the past, not even Machine Head survives. When Tiamat's leader, Johan Edlund, found out he could actually sing he abandoned growling forever and Tiamat knew real success, the same for Tristania, specially in the last album, Illumination. Now female growlers are another story, how many are there? None... With the exception of Arch Enemy!
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:21:35

The 4th Class

If female vocalists are your thing, Unexpect make Nightwish look like Evanesence.
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:40:53

Valherran

[quote="Col.J.P.":30mwtkk3]:shock: Could someone please tell Valherran that I'm a beta-tester and a pain in the ass for you guys for over 5 years? <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> LMAO, while your in those developer threads, crack the whip on them for me! <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->
Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:39:08

Col.J.P.

[quote="The 4th Class":26qxj5om]If female vocalists are your thing, Unexpect make Nightwish look like Evanesence. In a Flesh Aquarium? I'll give it a look, thx!
Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:06:22

TheCount

[quote="The 4th Class":30om0pn7]Ignorant fool! Die painfully listening to the majestics of Blind Guardian. <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> Really, a friend always tries to get me into Hammerfall, Blind Guardian, Sonata Arctica, etc, and I just don't seem to like it. Though I heard some stuff he said was from the earlier Blind Guardian and it sounded sweet, but I'm just not into power. Of course, being objective I recognize that they ARE great, but just not my type. In fact, my friend showed Nightfall in Middle-Earth to me, and a part of the booklet (or however you call it) ended up with the album dedicated "to all the elves, dwarves and orcs that dwell out there", though I can't remember exactly.
Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:19:23

TheCount

[quote="The 4th Class":vtzwt83q]except Into Eternity which is Scandinavian-inspired progressive death metal Big myth. They are metalcore attempting death vocals, with some shredding and a handful of talent. But you can't compare it to Opeth.
Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:36:08

The 4th Class

<!-- s:| --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_neutral.gif" alt=":|" title="Neutral" /><!-- s:| --> IE aren't metalcore in the slightest! Metalcore is all about punk and hardcore fusion, with breakdown upon breakdown of moshing madness. Plus if they're so metalcore, why they open for Dream Theater, and not My Chemical Romance? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: -->
Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:31:14

Col.J.P.

[quote="The 4th Class":1i6ehlgc]:| IE aren't metalcore in the slightest! Metalcore is all about punk and hardcore fusion, with breakdown upon breakdown of moshing madness. Plus if they're so metalcore, why they open for Dream Theater, and not My Chemical Romance? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Why this need for tags in music? I agree with you but My Chemical Romance isn't that bad, reminds me of Nine Inch Nails in the old days! Fields of the Nephilim anyone? ... guess not <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->
Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:31:35

Col.J.P.

sorry, double post for some weird reason...
Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:39:48

TheCount

[quote="The 4th Class":1whfho4q]:| IE aren't metalcore in the slightest! Metalcore is all about punk and hardcore fusion, with breakdown upon breakdown of moshing madness. Plus if they're so metalcore, why they open for Dream Theater, and not My Chemical Romance? <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /><!-- s:roll: --> Their vocals are the closest thing I've heard to a punk growl. And to be honest, they remind me a lot more to Linkin' Park than anything death. Besides, how can you call progressive a group with only one song above the six minute mark? (at least in their studio albums) And why did Dream Theater open for Iron Maiden so much? They sure aren't the same kind of metal...
Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:22:46

The 4th Class

[quote="TheCount":21e7ggh9]Their vocals are the closest thing I've heard to a punk growl. And to be honest, they remind me a lot more to Linkin' Park than anything death. Besides, how can you call progressive a group with only one song above the six minute mark? (at least in their studio albums) And why did Dream Theater open for Iron Maiden so much? They sure aren't the same kind of metal... Ok, I can see right through this. It's obvious you're just looking for a fight. And frankly I'm not interested. If you don't like IE, that's totally fine dude, nobody likes everything after all. But you're making some suspiciously ignorant statements comparing them to Linkin Park. And there's wayyy more to being a prog band than just having long songs. It's what you do with each minute of the song that matters, not how long each song is. Don't believe me? Check out the likes of Fates Warning, or even early Queen. Frankly I consider IE's newest album extremely more progressive than St. Anger.
Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:21:18

TheCount

[quote="The 4th Class":2daglv46] It's obvious you're just looking for a fight. I'm not. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong wherever you can, I'm sorry if I sounded a bit aggressive. Besides, I just mentioned LP because it's the first thing that came to mind. [quote="The 4th Class":2daglv46]And there's wayyy more to being a prog band than just having long songs. It's what you do with each minute of the song that matters, not how long each song is. Don't believe me? Check out the likes of Fates Warning, or even early Queen. Frankly I consider IE's newest album extremely more progressive than St. Anger. Heh, there's always one or two bands that can write lengthy songs, and solid, consistent albums of.. erm... not progressive: [quote="Hetfield, Ulrich, Hammett, Rock":2daglv46]KILL KILL KILL KILL, KILL! (repeat about 8 times) Maybe I'm just wrong, but progressive death metal seems to be a much more wide genre than I believed.
Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:01:02

The 4th Class

Yo guys I went to a show last night, and Beneath the Massacre are possibly the most promising deathcore band on the scene.

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